Saturday, March 15, 2008

The Smacchat tournament analysis and previous post

In the game of the Regional Finals took place Sunday as #10Davidson, the Cinderella story of the tournament, pushed #1Kansas to the limit, as a three-pointer that would have won the game, was ‘wide-left’ as time expired. The game was tight throughout as the Jayhawks ran multiple players, and defenses, at Stephen Curry. The question of the day is, what kind of play was that coming out of the timeout???!!! Rather than running Curry off of screens or going inside-out to get him a look Davidson had him bring the ball down, which he ended up giving up, and not getting back. Richards ended up getting the shot(0-3 for the night) and clanked it left. Memphis left no doubt that they are a different club than the one that lost to UCLA in 06’ Regional Final. They messed with Texas in a big way, sending them home easily by 18. The closest the game got was 5 points in the second half. The addition of freshman point guard Rose, could be the missing piece to put the one-loss Tigers over the top.The first half of the final four was in place Saturday as UCLA and North Carolina had comfortable wins. The Bruins never trailed in the game against Xavier, took a 9-point lead into halftime and doubled it in the second half, winning by 19. Kevin Love scored his usual 19, but the difference was that they finally got some support from other sources as M Bah-a-Moute had 13 and 13 after going scoreless the previous game. The Heels looked strong after handling Louisville in relatively easy fashion. Psycho-T dominated with 28 points as the Cardinals struggled to keep their heads above water. In a game that many thought would be one of the best of the tournament, didn’t materialize the Heels simply dominated with a home crowd behind them.

Who would have thought that Friday Night games would be as one-sided as they were, with the smallest margin of victory being 15 points. Although all were surprises, the biggest had to be the 2-3 match-up between Stanford and NC, which at one point was 52-51, then NC ran off 8 straight and never looked back. This does not bode well for the Pac-10’s argument for being the best conference in the NCAA as they have only one team left, their 2 & 3 BOTH got blown and their 1 looks a lot like the they will be the first top seed to fall. The Elite 8 games will not have much margin for error, and all should be much more contested. Although there is still a #12 left (Davidson) they can score with anyone and should keep this close. If you had “re-seed” the remaining teams right now, Louisville (12-2 since feb 1) would be in the top 3 and promise to give NC all they can handle. This first game in the Elite 8 pits #1UCLA and #3Xavier where the Bruins have not played well thus far in the tourney and are looking for a ‘break out’ game, but if it takes them too long to find it they may find themselves on a plane back to Westwood before they find it.

The first four components of the Elite Eight have been slated as Two Number 1’s (NC, UCLA) , and two #3’s(Xavier, Louisville) are set to do battle on Saturday. The Heels beat a very good Wazu club quite convincingly, UCLA got up big then held on, Louisville surprised many by taking out Tennessee, and Xavier won a thriller in OT vs. West Virginia. The second half will be decided Friday as all of the games look like great match-ups. #3Stanford takes on #2Texas, Michigan St. tries to upset #1 Memphis, Wisconsin takes on Davidson in a 3-10, and #1Kansas takes on #12Villanova. This is the night where the dogs could come out and bark, as there is a good chance one of the top-seeds will not live to play on Sunday. Additionally, when the brackets were made several were looking towards to the possible 2-3 match-up between TX and Stanford. If this game is played at a slower pace, look for the Trees (and the twins) to upset and move on.


Top seeds were not as lucky Friday as they were yesterday as both the #4 and #5 teams in the west bracket were knocked off in the Friday afternoon games. UCONN lost in overtime to San Diego 70-69, and Drake was upset at the buzzer by #12 Western Kentucky, also in overtime. The first half of the first round can to close without any major damage (except to Duke’s reputation), as all of the favorites held serve and the two #1’s look particularly good. The #2 Blue Devils, on he other hand, needed two defensive stops inside 11 seconds to avoid the biggest upset in NCAA tournament history. Otherwise in somewhat of an aberration, there were no upsets in the first wave of games as all top seeds won. Arizona and Kentucky turned out to be the frauds that many speculated and shouldn’t have been there, West Virginia looks like they can go deep into the tourney, and Pitt still looks like they are playing some of the best basketball in the nation “right now”.

Firstly, we understand that every year there will be teams that have their bubbles’ burst, that are overrated, and get in based on reputation, so here is our take on this year’s field and not in any particular order.

- how the hell is Kentucky in the field this year?? This falls under the ‘living on a name’ category. The won 10 games in a conference that is down this year and that is their resume???
- I guess in the eyes of Va. Tech the committee is “certifiably insane”
- Indiana does deserve a #8 seed another beneficiary of a weak conference
- Memphis does not shoot free throws well enough to advance to the final four
- Mich St. got the worst draw in the tourney for a previous top 10 – a 5/12 matchup with Temple, and the second round presumably would bring rugged Pittsburgh. After that, it's 33-1 Memphis. If Tom Izzo gets to his fifth Final Four, he'll have earned it, but it can’t be done with the horses he has.
- One of the best NBA previews will happen in the first round as OJ Mayo and Michael Beasley match up.
- Dayton got ‘hosed’ an RPI of 32, beat Pitt, Louisville, Arkansas, and Temple they should have been in.
- Arizona St. also should be instead of UK and Arizona

158 comments:

Anonymous said...

Tennessee is NOT a "Fraud" you're an idiot! The SEC is the best conference in the NCAA and the Vols have been the most consistent team all year. You can't expect them to go through the rigors of the SEC AND win the conf. tournament as well. They deserve to be a number one seed. Hey Memphis, why don't you play somebody real???!!!! We'll see in three weeks who is left standing! GO VOLS!

Anonymous said...

Memphis IS NOT the best team in the country! THEY HAVE PLAYED NO ONE AND LOST THE ONLY TOUGH GAME THEY HAD!

Anonymous said...

troyntn

I am a Tennessee fan but once again the Vols show they can not win in a tournament. I look for a 2 seed and a second round loss in the NCAA. Their defense was pathetic tonight! Vols you had your chance at a #1 seed and you blew it! Just like you always do when you are in a one and done environment!

Anonymous said...

Arkansas has guaranteed themselves an NCAA Bid regardless of how they do in the SEC Championship game. Nice win. The Hogs have struggled on the road this year but are a good team with a good coach. Playing at neutral sites in the NCAA they could do some damage.

Anonymous said...

This is what Player of the Year does for you! GO Heels!
VT fans should be proud of their effort. They are definitely in the dance. Seth Greenberg is an outstanind coach. If he could recruit some better talent, it would show even more.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE TO SAY GEORGIA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR IN THE SEC TOURNAMENT, BEATING FORMERLY RANKED OLE MISS,KENTUCKY, AND NOW MISSISSIPPI STATE. IT WOULD BE A GREAT STORY IF THEY TOOK DOWN ARKANSAS TOMMORROW FOR THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP AND A TOURNEY BID.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE TO SAY GEORGIA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR IN THE SEC TOURNAMENT, BEATING FORMERLY RANKED OLE MISS,KENTUCKY, AND NOW MISSISSIPPI STATE. IT WOULD BE A GREAT STORY IF THEY TOOK DOWN ARKANSAS TOMMORROW FOR THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP AND A TOURNEY BID.

Anonymous said...

for the Panthers! Maybe now the idiots in the selection room will give Pitt some love this year and give them a 3 or 4 seed!

Look at the teams Pitt beat when they had Fields healthy, they deserve a high seeding and should get one!

Party in the streets of Oakland tonight!

Anonymous said...

Great to see Dixon come away with the Big East Title. The guy is a class act. After some disappointing loses in the championship game they can celebrate tonight after beating a very good Hoya team.

Anonymous said...

Believe me, I speak for all Mountaineers when I say I think they deserve to be in.

Anonymous said...

Xavier, St. Joe's, UMass, and Temple if they win the auto-bid. Dayton was close but UMass has a better profile than them due to the head-head and conference record. Temple just didn't do anything outside of the league.

Anonymous said...

bRUinn

Hey Bruins.....do any of you think UCLA ever hit all cylinders all year long???

My real only concern with them has been the lack of EVERYTHING clicking, which is actually scary for the rest of the nation, cause if nagging injuries disappear and slumps by one major player after another don't rear its ugly head....this team can be TRULY phenominal. But because of what was just stated, they can be just as vulnerable as any other team, though I must say, for now, they have to be 1 of 3 or 4 HUGE favorites to take it all.

Anonymous said...

This UCLA team can beat anyone on any floor! If we do not cut the nets down in San Antonio, somebody is going to mount a huge (20 point lead) on the Bruins... This team only knows one speed!

Go Bruins

Anonymous said...

NCAA TEAM TITLES WON BY CONFERENCE
(through 2006-07 season)
Men
1. PACIFIC-10 254
2. Big Ten 196
3. Big 12 131
4. Southeastern 94
5. Ivy 76
6. Big East 56
7. Conference USA 46
8. Atlantic Coast 48
9. Western Athletic 35
10. Sun Belt 30

How bout that PAC-10!!!! My prediction is that the PAC has 50% of the final 8 teams

Anonymous said...

mikequil-

Yep Kentucky and Arizona are in. Virginia Tech is in. Arizona State is in.

Anonymous said...

I love how every year the Big Ten is terrible, and then they have three teams in the sweet 16.... Im a Pitt fan... but when will people get that showmanship doesn't mean better

Anonymous said...

mikeauil-

#1 Seeds Tomorrow:

UNC
Memphis
UCLA
Texas/KU winner

#2 Seeds:

KU/Texas Loser
Georgetown
Duke
Tennessee

Anonymous said...

UK sucks. They couldn't win out of conference, they have a good record in a weak conference, they have a weak RPI, they lost today, I'd say NIT all the way!!

Anonymous said...

good take! Kentucky is living solely off of reputation. Their body of work this is not worthy of a tournament bid. Just because they were over 500 in a weak conference doesn't justify not beating anyone of significance. HELLO NIT!

Anonymous said...

hope to God Clemson beats UNC.

If Clemson does win, and Kansas wins do you think UNC still gets the 1 Seed??
or if Texas wins do you think UNC still gets the seed?

I think UNC still will unless Kansas totally blows out Texas, and UNC doesnt play well

Anonymous said...

tmac

at least the top big east teams lost to good teams in Louisville losing to Pitt in OT, ND to Marquette, GTown to Pitt, and UConn to a pretty good WV team.

Purdue and Indiana couldnt even beat Illinois and Minnesota.

Anonymous said...

efaulk0710-

UK is in the tourney due to the names on their jerseys. yes, they shouldnt be in, but they will get in.

Anonymous said...

detfan32

I think Zona should not make (not to say that they won't make it) because there are too many better teams out there that deserve a shot who can make a run in the tourney that's what its about not necessarily the name on your jersey and Kentucky -even Florida is a better team right now than Zona so...sorry guys

Anonymous said...

AZCATS- It's not the top 65 teams, it's the 34 best teams, cause the other 31 teams are conf champs. Therefore Va Tech DOES NOT get in!! Their coach should know that before he goes on his next rant!!

Anonymous said...

orangeman-

the big east has 16 teams. if everyone of them had a winning record i would be amazed. they have 7 really good teams. the pac 10 has one great team and 2 good teams. other than that they are VERY average.

Anonymous said...

Pac104evr-

Orangeman, you're smokin' crack! How can you say the "Weak East" is better than the pack??? ONE GOOD TEAM??? Stanford is ranked 7 and Wash St. was in the top 15 for most of the year but we keep beating each other. What is the RPI of the Big Easy anyway?? You say we have 1 great team and 2 good ones, well you MAYBE have 1 good team and 16 below average teams. PITT is YOUR Champion???? good luck, all of your teams are gone by the great 8.

Anonymous said...

wvtoky-

Forget SOS. It means absolutely nothing unless, your team has a winning record against it. The strongest SOS in the country doesn't mean anything unless your team wins those games. Check out Coppin State. Their SOS would make them a #1 seed. Not. They have a losing record. They won their conference tourney. They're in because of that. So, win 17 and lose 14 and you're in because of SOS?

Anonymous said...

Texas size win today when we claim the Big-12 Title AND the number one seed baby!!

Anonymous said...

I'm just not a pac-10 fan this year in general. i obviously know they have some good teams in UCLA, Wash St, Stanford, USC...
but before this past week i was definitely putting UCLA in my final four. they have come up with the victories this week but two of them probably shouldve been losses against Cal and Stanford the first time. They had to come from behind again tonight, barely beat Cal both times. they due seem to come up with the W in the end and I may be wrong because that is certainly a good thing about them. i just dont see them keep getting this lucky.

Anonymous said...

Wrong Wrong Wrong - Kansas is all over T-Has today!

Anonymous said...

I'm all for the rise of the mid major conferences, but this is just ridiculous. How could So Alabama get an at large bid over Arizona St.? Do wins over the top 50 mean anything?

Anonymous said...

badgers124-

texas is so over rated they have no business being a # 2 seed wisconsin should be in there place. texas has 2 more losses then wisconsin and wisconsin beat texas in austin

Anonymous said...

HoosierinNYC12-

IU getting a #8 seed is an absolute travesty. So, two weeks ago they were projected to get a #4 and they fall to a #8? I am the first to admit they have been playing awful and losing to Penn State and Minnesota should have dropped them to a #5 or #6 at worst. But they were in the thick of the conference until the very end and there other losses were to good teams: Xavier, UConn, Wisconsin, and Michigan State. Not only are they a #8, but the committee thought they were the worst #8 seed because they play UNC In the 2nd round if they win in the 1st. So, you're telling me they are worse than the other #8's: BYU, UNLV, and Mississippi State. Stop it, it's an absolute joke.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain how Kentucky got in the tournament?

Anonymous said...

dayton not getting in is absurd, with w's against pitt and louisville (two teams that could reach the elite 8 in my opinion) combined with their multitude of injuries, i think they should have gotten in.

Anonymous said...

How did Indiana get an 8 seed. They are 25-7. All the Big Ten teams were seaded to low. Oh well, I hope they win. IU vs. UNC will be an awesome game to watch. DJ White will own Hansbourough.

Anonymous said...

badgers124-
texas is so over rated they have no business being a # 2 seed wisconsin should be in there place. texas has 2 more losses then wisconsin and wisconsin beat texas in austin

Anonymous said...

patjc23-

Tennessee. Kansas. Texas. UCLA.

Kansas vs UCLA Monday night April 7.

The Jayhawks cut down the nets.

Thats all there is to it.

Anonymous said...

IU should have been much higher and i don't get how UNC could face them when you look at their other comp seeds in the other brackets. A few weeks back they were challenging for the Big Ten crown!!

Anonymous said...

I personally think UT got shafted by the committee by having to play
in UNC's bracket. The committee essentially ranked UT as the 8 seed
in doing so, and I think that's horrible judgement. Tennessee should have
been the overall 5 seed.

I'm not a UT fan, ... I'm a UNC fan, ... but UT got shafted.

I consider this year's seeding of the tournament to the the worst in
NCAA history. The East Region is loaded, and the West Region is a cakewalk for UCLA.

They need to do what Bilas has been preaching for a while now, and just eliminate the concept of RPI. It's more of a disclaimer than it is a means for reasoning, ... otherwise Arizona State, who swept Arizona,
AND had a better conference record, would be playing next weekend.

While I'm talking about the freaking RPI, ... how is it that the ACC, which had the highest RPI rating of all conferences, gets only 4 teams in the dance, ... while the Big East gets 8 ?

Anonymous said...

Bluedog17-
Not having a horse in this race (a UK fan)this brackett is a monster. Butler, deserving or not, was a top 20 team or better for the entire season and they are the 7th seed.... Tennessee deserved a little better fate while the Cards can beat anybody... but ND is the sleeper so it is hard to figure your options while filling out your sheets on the East...UNC is far from a lock..but IMHO still a slight favorite given the zebras and the location.. Go Blue!!!!

Anonymous said...

U guys beat Pitt by 100, Louisville at their place - just wanted to say i think Dayton and Umass should be in 64 team tourney over Oregon, Arizona - the committee just likes sucking on those middle of the road so called major conf. teams. I' ll be in Dayton (hopefully its there) to see u guys beat the pope out of Ohio St. Good Luck Flyers and by the way u have a great coach - give him time like u did Oliver.

Anonymous said...

Daytonmann08- that's the nature of being a mid-major. Good coaches come (not in the case of gregory) and go. Overall, the season was a huge disappointment. You can't help but feel frustrated missing the tourney after that great start. I won't even pay attention to the nit games. See you guys next year!

Anonymous said...

The second round isnt going to be easy for the badgers because of their seeding... k st or usc both quality teams

Anonymous said...

ACCenerofUnivse-

The Big East should not have 50% of their conference in the tournament, they are no where NEAR that good! Is that the formula now? Stack the conference with cupcakes, play an even WEAKER non-conference schedule, and lobby like a politician come selection time. The tournament will expose them for the pretenders they are.

Anonymous said...

MrPack36 -
Someone please ask the committee how they could put Wisconsin down to a #3? They did everything that they needed to do to earn a #2. Duke did everything that they needed to do to drop to a #3.

Anonymous said...

viper -
If the selection committee continues the trend of giving all benefit of the doubt to the BCS teams, then the tourney will become the fairly predictable tale of the battle of Goliath's.

I have an issue with any team .500 or worse in-conference from the BCS over a team that wins 13 or 14 in conference and only loses 5 or 6 overall. Who did they play?? That BCS team had the opportunity to play at least 16 games against BCS teams. They lost half of them...the mid-major team?

I'm not saying that they would win thier first round game, but those BCS teams (Arizona, Villanova, Baylor, K-State) probably will not either. At least give them the opportunity that Arizona, Villanova, Baylor, and K-State will not...the opportunity to show what they can do.

Anonymous said...

-I don't think the committee ever excluded RPI from the discussion.

-Kentucky got in on a 12-4 SEC record and they're 7-3 in their last 10. Say what you will about the SEC strength, if you go 12-4 in a BCS conference you're going to the dance.

-ASU didn't play Okie St.

-ASU lost 10 of their last 15

-S Bama played Ole Miss, Miami(OH), San Diego, Miss St, and took Vandy to overtime in Nashville. They're non-conf strength of schedule was 70, ASU rang in at 296.

-ASU's 4 road wins included Cal, Zona, Washington and Oregon St (that's it for this season). They got housed by Big 11 basement-dweller Illinois in their opener, 77-54.

-If ASU doesn't get swept at home by the Washington schools in late January, they're probably in. If they beat Cal at home, they're probably in. If they win at Oregon.........

Anonymous said...

89falcon-

Part of the problem I have with leaving ASU out is that the committee claimed that RPI would have no bearing on who was selected, but then pointed to ASU's RPI to say that'd why they should be excluded. Which is it? Is the RPI a factor or not? I personally don't think much of the RPI because it penalizes or rewards teams for things that are out of their control. ASU is a perfect example, because they were in essence penalized for some of the teams they played havig down years. They played in the Maui Invitational with what was a strong field on paper, but then some of those teams like Okie State and Illinois, had down years which dragged down ASU's RPI. Meanwhile, Kentucky gets pasted by 41 at Vanderbilt and their RPI RISES!! How does that make sense?

I understand that you can't fault USA for their conference games, but you can fault them for not scheduling anyone worthwile outside of the conference. And what exactly did Kentucky do to earn a bid that ASU didn't? UK lost the majority of it's road games, especially against strong RPI teams...yet they get in on the strength of their conference finish while ASU's conference finish doesn't count. I guess it's good to be Kentucky, huh?

Anonymous said...

Hey Scum Devils, how's the view????

Go Cats!

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that the selection committee put an extraordinary amount of weight on a team's non-conference schedule this year. The games played way back in November and December seem to have been the prevailing factor in the Sun Devils being left out of the "Big Dance". Personally, I feel that if Arizona is in, so should ASU since they defeated the Wildcats in both meetings this year and finished higher in the Pac-10 standings (I know that isn't supposed to be a factor used by the committee). If strength of schedule is going to be such a large factor then maybe we should re-look at South Alabama's schedule. They only played 7 games against the RPI's top 100 teams while Arizona State played 17. So, in the last few weeks ASU was getting ready for the tournament by playing a tough Pac-10 schedule of UCLA, Stanford, USC, etc. with only three opponents with an RPI over 110, while South Alabama was playing 16 of its last 17 games against mainly Sun Belt teams with RPI's greater than 110 (and losing three of those). For my money, I'd much rather have a team that's been battle tested as of late in the tournament, even if their games in November and December were against weaker opponents!

Anonymous said...

Was dropping Tennessee to a no. 2 seed a slight?
Most assuredly it was, if you weigh UT’s No. 1 RPI (Ratings Percentage Index) rating and No. 1 strength of schedule ranking. After all this was a yardstick the NCAA selection committee designed and has religiously deployed over the years to help reduce the bias of perception and regional prejudice. In the past, if a team had a complaint about where it is seeded, the selection committee merely had to refer it to the fairness formula aka the RPI. In a case of role reversal it’s Bruce Pearl who is referring the NCAA to its own system and asking what gives.

The Vols won only the Eastern division of the SEC two years ago and got a number 2 seed. This year's team ran away with the conference championship, had the number one RPI, the number one strength of schedule in the nation, the number 4 ranking in the coaches and AP polls at selection time, and achieved a number one ranking for the first time in Tennessee basketball history. Yet, that's not good enough for a number one seed! It’s beginning to look like prejudice runs rampant among the members of the selection committee. These boys clearly hate Bruce Pearl, as does Mike DeCourcy. Hopefully, one day they'll all learn that anti-Semitism is not a virtue and this spitefulness will come around to bite them in the collective a$$. Hell, a group of trained monkeys could have done a better job.

Anonymous said...

Was dropping Tennessee to a no. 2 seed a slight?
Most assuredly it was, if you weigh UT’s No. 1 RPI (Ratings Percentage Index) rating and No. 1 strength of schedule ranking. After all this was a yardstick the NCAA selection committee designed and has religiously deployed over the years to help reduce the bias of perception and regional prejudice. In the past, if a team had a complaint about where it is seeded, the selection committee merely had to refer it to the fairness formula aka the RPI. In a case of role reversal it’s Bruce Pearl who is referring the NCAA to its own system and asking what gives.

The Vols won only the Eastern division of the SEC two years ago and got a number 2 seed. This year's team ran away with the conference championship, had the number one RPI, the number one strength of schedule in the nation, the number 4 ranking in the coaches and AP polls at selection time, and achieved a number one ranking for the first time in Tennessee basketball history. Yet, that's not good enough for a number one seed! It’s beginning to look like prejudice runs rampant among the members of the selection committee. These boys clearly hate Bruce Pearl, as does Mike DeCourcy. Hopefully, one day they'll all learn that anti-Semitism is not a virtue and this spitefulness will come around to bite them in the collective a$$. Hell, a group of trained monkeys could have done a better job.

Anonymous said...

Seems as if the committee mixed and matched the 2 and 3 seeds. Wisc. could have been a 2 and Duke a 3 seed but didn't want to put Duke and UNC in same bracket. Pitt could have been a 3 but kept them from GTown and Stanford from UCLA. The 1 seeds were no-brainers and I'm not sure anyone in the West can beat UCLA unless they have an off night. The potential WVU v. Duke 2nd round game could be really interesting, of course they both have to get there first. Its weird to see all the teams from the state of Indiana in the East bracket (except Purdue). All 3 could have a shot at UNC. The best potential game should be UCLA v. UCONN

Anonymous said...

kbonner1-
Duke is a 2 seed based on performance earlier this decade. Wisconsin won Big 10 regular season and tournament and is a 3? Stanford also had a better claim to a 2 seed.

Anonymous said...

tkbone-

I agree completely. Duke lost 2 of their last three games and to a team that hasn't beaten them in 22 tries. Duke the past decade has been given a favorable route to the final four. Their seeding should have partially been based on how they have recently played as well as 2 months ago.

Anonymous said...

I seem to recall Duke beating Wisconsin in their only head to head. I'm just saying.

Now I really like Wisconsin, but I can't say much about the strength of the Big Ten this year. I mean, they played Illinois for the conference tournament championship.

Anonymous said...

mlmbruin99-
I am hopeful that Duke makes it to the elite eight to face UCLA. I already have my tickets to all three games in Phoenix and hope to see a 1 vs. 2 match up with Love and Singler. I know my team will be there, but I can't say the same for Duke.

Anonymous said...

As always, we shall see...the country will pick UCLA to win this bracket and they very well may. LIke I said before, I like Duke's chances against anyone.

I would love to play you. Don't put Uconn in your bracket, its your buisness.

But I really don't see duke beating WVU, if you do then so be it.

I expect an exciting game though. Thats if WV wins 1st round ditto Duke.

Anonymous said...

I think this is by far the toughest bracket. You have a team that was #1 for a good amount of time, Pitt which is one of the hottest teams in america, MSU which can play with any team on any night, Texas who is hot and can light the scoreboard up, Stanford has big men and finess, Marquette can shot the lights out, St. Mary's who beat 3 top 40 teams, Kentucky and Temple have storied histories, and then throw hungry teams like Oregon and Miss. St. in the mix and I have no doubt what the toughest bracket is.

Anonymous said...

I know this much, they had better not sleep on Drake! With Korver's little brother, that patient offense, and the ability to stick the 3, you make look up and find yourself down 12 points! Then we milk the clock 35 seconds at a time. Over 20 wins this year, we are the Gonzaga of the Future!! GO BULLDOGS!

Anonymous said...

I've got UCLA battling Wisconsin in the final.

I'll root for my BYU Cougars to knock off the Bruins, but the seeding makes me realistic that (unlike predicted before the bracket announcement) that MWC teams UNLV and BYU will not make it to the second week.

My Final Four includes Butler (via beating Indiana who knocks of UNC) and Memphis. I've got Wisconsin beating Georgetown, Clemson and Butler. Duke beats WVU and Georgia, but loses to UCLA. Looks like many others expect Memphis to be playing Texas -- I think Memphis prevails until they meet this years National Champ Bruins.

Anonymous said...

bobfitzhart-

My Sweet 16: UNC-ND, L'ville-Tennessee, Kansas-Clemson, Wisconsin-G'Town, Memphis-Pitt, Stanford-Texas, UCLA-Drake, Baylor-Arizona. UNC beats L'ville to get to the final four, where they play Georgetown who defeats KU. UCLA and Stanford meet for the fourth time, and UCLA wins that yet again. UCLA beats GTown in the final.

Anonymous said...

Crazy huh? by reading all these boards you would think Duke was a bubble team. I just read one on ESPN where someone said if it was Dec. and Duke and Arizona played on a neutral who would win? they said it was a toss up. the same Arizona who lost to UVA at home at that time. the same Arizona that everyone is complaining about even making the dance. Now who knows Zona could surprise but have you ever seen someone get such hate? There is no other team in the tourney who we get to hear day in and day out about their "flaws". if we are 27-5 I think we are a good team. but alas if they didn't run these boards about Duke what would everyone have to talk about on here?

are we the only "elite" team that lacks experience now too?

Anonymous said...

RWRJJDuke-

If Zoubek plays more than 5 minutes Duke will not advance past the second round. Duke was 21-1 without Zoubek playing, 6-4 with him playing. 'Nuff said. I think Coach K is smart enough to see that trend and I think he'll correct the situation. Z clogs up the lane too much, can't pass, can't catch, can't think, can't play D. Duke is an entirely different team when Zoubek plays. He needs to be benched for the duration of the tournament.

Anonymous said...

UCLA can practically rest its starters just in the first half and roll into the final four. Mbah a Moute can use the rest for two weeks and be ready for San Antonio.

I'm not sure how people are picking anyone BUT UCLA to win this tournament. They won the toughest top to bottom conference outright and have played more tournament teams than any of the other top seeds. They have one of the top big men in the college game right now (I'm certainly not saying he's better than Hansbrough, Hibbert, Beasley, or the Lopez twins) and one of the top two backcourt in the nation (Memphis the other). Defense wins championships and Howland has been teaching this for years. Looks like another championship is heading to Westwood.

Anonymous said...

umterps1 - Davidson are the close but a no cigar team...still batting .000 against any team in the top 100 of the RPI...lots of teams came close to beating Duke, UNC, and UCLA this year. They play in a very poor league and have yet to prove they can beat anyone so I don't see them dong it this year.

Anonymous said...

partytimes2006-

I think that Baylor can take Purdue. I think that Purdue's youth will show up in the tournament.

Anonymous said...

Will.Blair1
I feel like if Indiana plays zone defense again they will play much better against Arkansas. DJ and Tyler will be the best match up of the tournament and it will be a great game regardless of who wins. Personally I want IU to win but I hear UNC is pretty good this year.

Anonymous said...

wvscout -

I believe all of these team are sleeper teams. However, I hate to say this, because I do like UGA, but the Georgia Bulldogs have overachieved and there story is done in the first round. I hope I am wrong. Georgia shoot there load, just like the orangeman a few years back.

Anonymous said...

KU BABY!! Looking dominant and ready to roll into the next round!!!! Any takers??????? ROCKSHOCK!

Anonymous said...

Hey BuleDevils, where are you???? You REALLY look like a deserving #2 seed!

Anonymous said...

I don't want to hear any more talk about the Pac-10 being the best conference in the NCAA's your #3 just got RUN!!!

Anonymous said...

Not to take anything away from the Duke players, but they got very lucky tonight, by about 6 inches. Belmont played their tails off, and put up one of the more dominant 15-2 fights I have seen in a few years. Congrats to Duke, but congrats to Belmont for making them fight for it.

Anonymous said...

lsmith20822-

It's hard to put into words how this gutty Belmont team played Duke tonight. Contrary to the tone of this article, this game was more about how well Belmont played as to how poorly the Blue Devils played. Could Duke have played better? Sure. Could Belmont have played better? I don't think so.

At any rate, the Duke haters will have to wait at least one more game for the young Blue Devils to go home.

Anonymous said...

I thought USC was probably in trouble when Bill Walker hit his first 3 point attempt. He seems to shoot very hot or very cold and today it was the hot Bill Walker who showed up. When K-State WINS the whole team shows up. The rest of the team did a great job as well. The open guards were hitting 3s and the whole team was killing USC on the boards. KSU seemed to have a lot more able bodies to use for fouls with the tight whistle in this game but also Beasley played very smart with his fouls.

Hopefully they can play this way again Saturday.

Anonymous said...

WVU proved all of those naysayers wrong again!! 75-65 WVU. Ruoff and Nichols were on fire! Alexander was not as dominant but still contributed. I can't wait to see WVU take on Duke. Duke escaped with a 1 pt win in the last 12 seconds. Big East going 4-0 tonight is great.

Go Mountaineers!!!

Anonymous said...

Good game 'Eers! Let's keep it up against Duke!

I have to say that Buddinger and Hill are some serious ballers.

I don't believe that they had one senior in there. They will definitely be a team to reckon with next year.

Let's go BE Conference.

We want to be 8-0 after tomorrow!

Anonymous said...

NC-Mountie - I think WVU can beat Duke in a huge 2nd round upset but don't see them getting past Xavier and definitely not past UCLA. The Duke team can be exposed but WVU will need Ruoff and Nichols to hit some threes and open up the mid-range game for Alexander or the middle for Butler and Flowers to pull that off. If Duke plays like they did against Clemson, they can be beat.

Anonymous said...

WVU fans. As a Louisville fan I have had the chance of seeing and booing coach huggins for many years. I can atest that he is one of the best in the game. He proved it this year because he didnt have much to work with. That being said i hope you get a chance at Xavier cause their fans hate him more. I go X in my final four but ill be cheering for you if they get there. PS they call him Coach Thuggins in Louisville and Cincy. You will find out why in the next three or four years.

Anonymous said...

Duke just wasnt physical enough to hang with the much stronger Mountaineers. Duke is a bunch of softies and that is all there is to it. The rebound advantage made that clear. They are used to playing in a soft conference that is talked up because of tradition. Well, besides UNC, and im still not sure about them. The tradition is over. GO MOUNTIES!!! ]

If you are referencing the second half, you would be absolutely correct. That said, Duke did not look so scared and soft in the first half when they were doing what they needed to do, which was exploit the Big East's more physical play (I will give credit where it is due, expect solid contact in Big East ball, foul or not). But, alas, West Virginia played a better second half than Duke did the first, and we have the resulting final score. West Virginia was better this day just like Duke's opponent any other day they go cold from three-point range and panic.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to WVA and their fans.. they handed our butts to us today.. We played good ball against them in the first half.. they made adjustments at halftime.. and we did not.. Until we get a BIG man that can play inside.. our three point shooting is not going to worry anyone, most of the time.

I used to tell Tar Heel fans that Dean had let the game pass him by.. and he did.. I think that perhaps the same thing is now happening in Durham..

Again congrats to WVA... NOW make sure that UCLA does NOT make the final four..

Anonymous said...

Duke just wasnt physical enough to hang with the much stronger Mountaineers. Duke is a bunch of softies and that is all there is to it. The rebound advantage made that clear. They are used to playing in a soft conference that is talked up because of tradition. Well, besides UNC, and im still not sure about them. The tradition is over. GO MOUNTIES!!!

That is because Huggins has a weight program Beliegn never did. He made the players bulk up and get there legs so they have them in the second half.

Anonymous said...

Duke just wasnt physical enough to hang with the much stronger Mountaineers. Duke is a bunch of softies and that is all there is to it. The rebound advantage made that clear. They are used to playing in a soft conference that is talked up because of tradition. Well, besides UNC, and im still not sure about them. The tradition is over. GO MOUNTIES!!!

That is because Huggins has a weight program Beliegn never did. He made the players bulk up and get there legs so they have them in the second half.

Anonymous said...

I think what people are talking about regarding Duke that yes, in the mid 80's til the mid 90's and throw in the Elton Brand/Battier years, Duke have done well. In today's world, it's unfortunately the "What have you done for me lately" mentality. And Duke really haven't done that much in the tourney lately. In last 7 years, they made it out of Sweet Sixteen once, despite four times having #1 seed and this year, having a #2 seed. In the regular season, Duke is great. In tourney within last 7 years, average at best. The last 2 years, they haven't made it past Final 32.

So, if you only count regular season within the last 7 years, Duke is still Elite. If you're counting tourney time, well, not so good. Sad, but true.

Anonymous said...

slatondevine-

Congratulations to the Mountaineers. What as great game. And to all those Huggins haters that said he cant coach, that was a perfectly coached game! The keys to the win, West Virginia outrebounded Duke 47-27. And at one point Duke missed 13 straight 3 point attempts. Way to go Mountaineers!!!!

Anonymous said...

taa2008-

Being a Duke fan, it is a disgrace to see how bad Duke's fundamentals of basketball truly are...Not one player knows how to rebound and not once did Duke swing the ball to get a player open for a shot...Coach K also looks like he doesn't care about the game anymore, as he sits on the bench and never says a word or looks upset in anyway at the way his team plays...Granted, he had a fever the other night, but this is his job and I am just really sick of seeing Duke ousted in the first 2 rounds every single year anymore]

Thank you. I remember screaming to the top of my lungs all year to do things like "box out," "don't foul 30-ft away from the hoop!" and "You are 7-1 and three feet from the hoop, just go up and put it off the glass instead of on the ground


where the rats can get it or you may travel!" I think part of what made Duke good was that they never forgot the fundamentals and because of it could play with more talented teams. Could be the part that gets Duke hated, too, because no one on Duke's team looks like someone that an average person could not be, yet these guys are playing well and winning (usually).

Anonymous said...

Throw the Big East/Pac comparison out the window. Kansas State was a bad matchup for USC and Arizona seems to just not get it. That being said, it's about matchups. The contrast in styles is why the game was close. If Texas wins verse Miami, it will again be a contrast in style. Atchley cant stop the Twins and Texas will need to hit shots. The one thing I will caution Texas fans, Texas,other than playing Austin Peay, plays a lot of close games, they don't blow teams out. Several games I watched against OKlahoma State and notably Texas Tech, they let them hang around. Texas is only a 7 point favorite and don't forget Miami beat Duke so there is no guarantee. Stanford, Texas will be fun because they are the two premier sports programs for all sports in the country. I think Texas fans would agree with my assessment.

Anonymous said...

Wake up America! The Cougs are for real. They do it the right way. Teamwork, Defense, and humility. I couldn't be prouder!!! Go Cougs!

Anonymous said...

everyone in this field deserves to be there and i belive the ark unc game will be closer than anyone thinks. so you ousted the 16 seed that only unc fans know who they were because you played them. i hope for unc that they are not going into this game with the attitude the fans have because if they do they will lose and this season will be a huge disappointment and the number 1 seeding will have ment nothing.

Anonymous said...

Jayroon, Arkansas will get their chance tomorrow. Just make sure that you're HERE posting when Carolina smashes them.

Anonymous said...

BearDown8411-

The Hoosiers did get screwed with an 8 seed. 25 wins, 14 in conference play, 22 or 23 RPI and a SOS in the 50's. Now look at Purdue who got an 6 seed- 24 wins, 15 in conference play, an RPI of 46 I believe and SOS around 105-110. And oh yeah they lost to IU. Now look at the rest of the East bracket. Only 3 teams have a better record than IU and one of those is South Alabama. How does an 11 loss, 9-7 conference record Oklahoma team deserve a 6? There was no consistency in the seeding in this years tourney.

Anonymous said...

x2champa2x -
i've watched as many tourney games as possible, as i do every year, including the cougs, and like all year their terrible offense leads me to believe that they just won't be able to score as much as we can, even with their tight d. and why do so many teams try to bash unc's schedule? we have the 6th hardest overrall, with the 25th toughest noncon. just because we havn't beaten as many top 25 teams as others (we havn't had the oppurtunity to play them, first off) doesn't mean we havn't been playing great competition all year long; in fact, we have more quality wins than probably any other team in the country (source: www.realtimerpi.com ). and seeing as how wazzu has drifted around and in and out of the bottom of the top 25 the last few weeks, i'd say lack of marquee wins vs top 10 programs makes little difference for us. on the other hand, louisville and tennessee are real competition. i would love for either to try and run with us, just like teams tried to do earlier this year and in 2005. nobody can push the ball like the heels, and as good as wazzu's defense is, they havn't seen an offense like ours before. heels win 78-63

Anonymous said...

I certainly see the Bruins emerging from their bracket and then defeating whoever comes out of Memphis' bracket. But if we're talking potential pros and a finals matchup, I wouldn't look past North Carolina. I took with a grain of salt UNC destroying Mount Saint Marys, but when I saw them take down SEC Tournament finalist Arkansas by 31, I'm thinking wow! Future pros for certain in Hansbrough and Ty Lawson with a very real possibility of others such as Wayne Ellington and Danny Greene. Long and short is with Ty Lawson returning to full strength (he was out for over a month and limited when he first came back to action), UNC looks like a loaded beast that I don't see Kansas (or Wisconson - I believe the Badgers may have the moxy to knock KU out in the elite 8) knocking off the Heels before a finals matchup with UCLA.

Anonymous said...

Everyone thinks the Bruins are stacked with Pros; but Collison and Love are the only certain NBAers. They have been the most consistent all year, and they may not get the best dunks ala Westbrook and Mbah a Moute but those two are the key to UCLA. I have the Bruins meeting Kansas in the championship; I hope everyone is healthy because thats a GREAT potential match-up to see who can play at the next level.

Anonymous said...

You have Texas 3 spots ahead of Wisconsin...who beat Texas *at* Texas? You sportswriters are a total joke. WI is getting no respect. Fine. You'll learn the hard way. Stephen Curry is good...even potentially great...but has he faced a defender like Michael Flowers? (and team D like WI's?) I do not think so. Maybe after we see those results y'all will give WI a little respect...but I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

I have all the respect in the world for what Curry and Davidson has done so far in this tournament, but even if he does score 20 or 30, it won't be enough. Just like Akognon and Beasley in the first two rounds, the Badgers will have a plan. Bo Ryan should be considered for national coach of the year for gelling this Wisconsin team together.

And about the Big Ten being down this year...how's that vaunted ACC doing this tourney?

GO BADGERS!!!

Anonymous said...

Im going to go out on a limb here and say, hell no! Wisc has a better Defense even if G-town has a better defensive field goal percentage , wisconsin has allowed one team in the past 10 games to score more then 60 points in a game and that was Mich St in the big ten Championship game, and Cal St. avg, 86 points a game and I am sure K State avg more then the 55 we held them too, so your wrong, wisc has the best D in the Nation.....

Anonymous said...

If you think Curry is going to wear down then you are smoking crack. He has been guarded by the BEST, most atheletic players in the nation (Ginyard & Lawson from Carolina, Collison from UCLA, and Henderson from Duke) and STILL put up huge numbers. He WILL hit his shots, and not only that, but he will penetrate your defense single handedly just like he did time after time in the second half versus Gtown. Curry may have just hit the national spotlight, but Ive watched in play several times this year (at UCLA, in charlotte vs Duke and Carolina, among other conference games) and what people do not realize is his defense is just as good as his offense. Davidson is extremely underrated. They have the most generous point guard in the nation (8apg) who can drain 3's like its his business. The only thing I have questioned against this Davidson team is its team defense they stepped it up yesterday against Gtown, forcing 20 turnovers. Do you really think Davidson has anything to fear.. they are the 10 seed. You are supposed to win Wisconsin... Just like Georgetown.

Anonymous said...

mitchmadness -

Washington State Cougar Basketball:

Lock NBA players? Zero

Teams that have forced them out of their style of play this season? Zero

Times they've been blown out this season despite playing in one of the top conferences? Zero

Teams that have scored more than 42 points on them in this tournament? Zero

Chance that the home team, NC will blow them out? Zero

Chance that they'll beat NC? Not zero

The Cougs are in the game! Go Cougs!

Anonymous said...

The Cougs will hold Carolina to 75 points. Problem is, the Cougs will score no more than 60 themselves.

Go Heels!

Anonymous said...

Golfdog-
They're doing what they've always done - play really tough at critical times in the game.

In the second half of the regular ACC season, they shut down everyone they need to... They'll shut down Wazzu, too,
... especially early - like they did with the Hawgs, and the odds are considerable that the score will be pretty bad for Wazzu at the half. The only way to actually slow the game against Carolina is to make a high percentage of shots, and that just isn't easy in the NCAA tournament. Excellent teams
(Illinois in '05 is a great example) have attempted it and failed. Ellington, Green, and now Lawson are just too many weapons to defend, and UNC has been excellent at finding "who's hot" within their roster.

The criticism of their defense is always well founded in the first half of the season, and always unfounded in the second half of the season, Mike.

Defense is desire. All recent evidence suggests they have plenty of it, and they possess the athletic talent to impose it.
It's not their "achilles heel" as many would like to think.

I'll agree that UNC has the roughest road to the Final Four, and UCLA was practically given the easiest. Makes one wonder about the seedings, doesn't it?

If all things work with proper officiating, UNC will make it to the final weekend. They have too many bigs, thus "fouls to give" with either Louisville or Tennessee, and the only thing that will stop them is whistles that don't get blown when they should.

Anonymous said...

Everyone's talking about how WSU will slow down the Tar Heel tempo and their ability to score points in transition. My question is, what happens if UNC controls the tempo and scores 40+ points in the first half, getting transition baskets? Is WSU capable of running with the Tar Heels? Are they capable of scoring 80+ points a game? If I am a Cougar fan, the one thing I worry about is falling behind double digits to a team like UNC. WSU is not the type of team to play "catch up" basketball.

Many of you may think I'm bias, because I'm a Tar Heel alum, but I do believe WSU can win this game if they hold UNC to under 60 points (which was not done this season by any team UNC played) and they shoot over 60% from the field.

Two things about UNC that I like in this game: Chances are, WSU is going to double team Hansbrough. If they do this, then we will have a chance for some easy baskets and WSU could potentially get into foul trouble. Second, I don't care how good your defense is, it's very difficult to guard Ty Lawson; it's even more difficult to force him to turn the ball over. Even if you "contain" Lawson from driving to the basket for an easy layup, it still does't do you much good unless he's turning the ball over.

I'm not making a prediction on the outcome of the game, but hopefully it will be a UNC victory.

Anonymous said...

wazzufan31-
UNC fans, you most likely win, but you are complete idiots if you think UNC will get 40 in the first half, there is zero, zero chance of that..for a UNC fan this is going to be the most boring game you have seen all year, there also is a zero chance that UNC will get out and run on the Cougars, you can still win and possibly dominate the game in the half court as well...and yes the Cougars have seen athletic teams this year..I'd even say USC is more athletic than the Tar Heels, my prediction is the game will be hovering around 55 with the Cougars still in the game with 5 minutes then foul trouble will get to the Cougars and UNC pulls away probably 67-55 or something along those lines..but someone needs to check their stats the Cougars beat 5 tournament teams in their OOC schedule more than UNC did for whatever thats worth.

Anonymous said...

UNC beat 7 tournament teams this year and some by large margins. They beat Duke, Davidson, Miami, BYU, Kent St., Kentucky and Clemson(3 times). By the way, UNC only lost 2 games all year and that was without our star point guard Ty Lawson. I predict UNC 78-65. We shall see.

Anonymous said...

UCLA vs UNC that's the finals wheater u want to acctept it or not!

Anonymous said...

rjucla-

C'mon. Let's take a step back. Whatever. Call the block/foul bogus, UCLA is still dancing. Their demise? Greatly exaggerated.

From here on in, let's cede the Bruins a little benefit as far as doubt is concerned with respect to the Texas A&M outcome.

Despite any of the officiating in the game, it wasn't a fluke or an accident that UCLA came back from 10 down on Texas A&M, who by the way, put up one hell of a fight. Seeing this team come up clutch over the last three years, you have to refuse to throw in the towel on them until the buzzer sounds. But the Aggies had this game. I honestly thought that the 9 seed (who played on a level far beyond it) was in total control and on the way to the Sweet 16.

Silly me.

And silly media.

Anonymous said...

The Vols can win without Lofton because they basically have the last month. He's not that good. Take away the three ball and he is anemic. They won't win however because they shoot poor shots and have no low post presence to go to when their shots are not falling. Chism is not good.

Anonymous said...

As I look down the bracket, things look up for North Carolina
Well, that was ugly. UNC sinks its fangs into Arkansas, devouring it with ease 108-77. And Gregg Doyel? He's bored, because if these Tar Heels show up every game, forget about it. Just hand them the title now.

Anonymous said...

The first member of the 08’ Sweet 16 club is West Virginia as they disposed of Duke in relatively easy fashion. WV came out to fast to start the second half, caught up, took a double-digit lead, and never looked back. It’s time to call it like we see it, and the truth is that Duke was not a true #2 seed, and was more feared for the name and history than their performance on the court this year. In other early Sat. action #3 Wisconsin coasted vs. Kansas St. and looked good in the process, and Xavier got a fight but took care of Purdue.

Anonymous said...

radar.love-

Ben Howland is a great defensive coach. I hate watching them play, but gotta give him props for grinding it out...but...UCLA gets SO many breaks from the NCAA. Like Duke/UNC, UCLA gets to play tournament games in a home setting every year. Over this awesome 3-year NCAA run they've had, how many wins have they had outside the state of California? One win. Everything else is "at home". Give other schools (Kansas, Memphis, Texas) those advantages (travel, fans, familiarity, etc.), and they could make final fours year after year too. And don't get me started on the officiating.

smacchat said...

bruingoin'toSA-

Hey Radar.love, wouldn’t you agree that the reason both NC and UCLA have had tournament games “close to home” or “the same state” is because they WIN 30 GAMES PER YEAR? I think that deserves advantageous seeding and venue, otherwise the regular season (and those useless conference tournaments) have absolutely no value at all. Furthermore, you forget where UCLA was sent in the 4 previous years prior to the run. I does make a case for winning games during the regular season, particularly in Oct and Nov when no one is watching. Bottom line…win games, get a top seed, then others have to come and beat you, not the other way around. It’s all about the victories in March and April, the rest is nothing but excuses, reasons, conversation, and complaining. Do the work.

Anonymous said...

ryderchamps04 - I graduated a year after DJ at Brother Martin and I can only say that he represents what it means to be a Crusader: a tough leader, skilled player, and even better human being. Even though I'm at LSU now, I can't help but put on some burnt orange for my fellow alum playing at UT. Hook 'em!

Anonymous said...

datzMRDorsey-
The line in the sand has been so irreversibly and indelibly drawn with regard to differing opinions on the importance of free throw percentage and philosophies, that an "I told you so" will be inevitable and unavoidable at the end of the NCAA Tournament. If Memphis goes out for any reason, the free throw cult will be assertive and immediate at banging down the I told you so door. If Memphis goes to the Final Four or all the way and takes the NC, I doubt many will say much, if anything.

Anonymous said...

exmempho -
Memphis may only make 10 free throws per game however they will make around 20 points on forced turnovers....which would you rather have....as for CUSA ..what would your conference look like if raiders took 5 of your teams????? GO TIGERS

Anonymous said...

skyscream -

Honestly this is the game in the South bracket I am most worried about as Texas has not done well vs teams with large forwards or centers this season. That being said, Texas has played a much rougher schedule than Stanford and come away with the better record and there's something to be said for that. I have UCLA beating Texas in the final four but a season after losing Durant I won't comlain at all about a final four loss.

Anonymous said...

Texas has got to push the tempo and make it a full court game if it is a slow half court game Stannford is just going to dump it down low which will create occasional threes from goods and hill which creates a Texas loss

How are they gonna run, we don't force or take bad shots, and even though Texas is in top 5 in turnovers created, Stanford is top 4 in fewest turnovers. They don't beat themselves, and the Lopez twins are very athletic. This ain't Roy Hibbert mopey dopey slow, more like sean Marion matrix on defense.

Anonymous said...

Hookem899- Ok, so what do you have to say now?? Half the game is over and the Augustiene is going off, the Lopez twins are getting their's, but the Texas quickness has been the difference. We're up 9 and totally in control. The crowd has not made as big a difference as everyone thought but I the Cardinal don't change something this is going to be a 20+ point win!!!

Anonymous said...

well the ncaa tourney is about matchups and they pitted a team with strong guard play and no inside game versus a team with strong inside play and crappy guards...I see stanford winning unless Texas gets in the bonus and starts driving and getting to the line...

Anonymous said...

Tigrfan84-

We'll "MESS WITH TEXAS" this game has not been close from the beginning. Memphis is in the FINAL FOUR baby!!! UCLA we got a little pay back for you! TIGERS are going all the way!

Anonymous said...

Can't deny the 30 win seasons. But lets see if they can make a final four when they actually have to travel out of the state of CA.

Anonymous said...

Hey Tigerfan84, 75% of your wins were against inferior opponents. You've played well in the tournament but now you're stepping up to play elite teams and you WILL BE EXPOSED! This will be a repeat performance of the regional finals in 06'. GO BRUINS!

Anonymous said...

I guess they don't teach Geography at Kansas University. Phoenix is in Arizona.

Anonymous said...

philphan25-
What a game. Davidson played a great game, except I think they mishandled the last possession. They should have driven the ball and kicked out, or at least taken a shot with a few seconds left and hope for a rebound. But that's all in hindsight, and they had a great run. Also something to note is that Kansas has not played a team higher than a nine seed. Not sure if that means anything, but they will certianly be playing a team deeper and more athletic than Davidson in North Carolina.

Anonymous said...

corkyandshell-

WOW!!!!! S. Curry is that good.can't say enough about that guy,he shoots lights out,all day long.the game was a little to close for me,was really hoping for a blowout. got 3 out 4 final four picks right. davidson should hold there heads high,great job. GO KU

Anonymous said...

Yankees3Fan7-
Davidson gave us a memorable run to the Elite Eight. Although they did not get to the Final Four, they reminded me of George Mason, Villanova, and North Carolina State in terms of true underdogs in the NCAA Tournament. Big ups to these Wildcats. Stephen Curry helped make a name for Davidson and himself and now he will get the recognition he deserved during the season. Congrats to Kansas as well for getting to the Final Four. Bill Self finally got the monkey off his back and got KU back to where everyone is used to them going to. Now we have all four #1 seeds in the Final Four. This will be fun.

Anonymous said...

5288-

I tell you what. Davidson played a great game thought I thought they made it easy on Kansas that last try. From the outset Davidson out-hustled Kansas, got a few fortunate whistles and looked more relaxed in this game. Was this the game Kansas expected? Probably. They just looked tense. But then so did Davidson for the first 8-10 minutes. Then Davidson loosened up while Kansas never got in rythem. Now, credit part of that to Davidson. Part of that though goes to the monkey on the backs of Kansas. You could see that monkey getting bigger and bigger with each 3 pt basket by Davidson.

Anonymous said...

keepnumber3 - All One seeds making the Final Four may be making History, but it sure is boring history. No offense to all the teams that made it. Each and every team deserved to make it, but I feel that this is taking something away from the tournament with all 1 seeds making it. Davidson was making this tournament interesting for the common fan, without them, the tournament loses some interest for fringe fans.

Anonymous said...

5288- I'm gonna disagree. Well, maybe as far as the true college basketball fan is concerned. These are the 4 teams that from the outset nearly everyone believed were the best with everyone else a notch or two below. Now we get to settle it on the court. In this case the cream has risen to the top.None of these four teams will have an excuse if they lose and should be truly proud if they win. This truly is a Final Four for college basketball's best of the best.

Anonymous said...

McKillop shouldn't have let Curry give him the Jimmy Chitwood speech on the last play. He would have been a good decoy for a back door cut from someone unexpected to tie. Davidson played like they belonged the whole game, so I don't necessarily understand going for the win and not playing for OT in that situation. Anyway, a great game plan and execution otherwise to be in it with a chance to win at the end.

On the other bench, Self almost coached his way out of the final 4. All those jump shots when their least effective inside player, Kaun, was killing Davidson every time he got it in the paint. I sure hope he coaches like that against Carolina next weekend. They can have all the contested jumpers they want.

Anonymous said...

bruinnewman- I Hope UCLA plays UNC in the title game and get to see Love vs Hansbrough. That'd be awesome.

Anonymous said...

TheIronFist322-
UCLA is the new Buffalo Bills. 3 trips in 3 years and they will have nothing to show for it. If they can get past Memphis, they will still get dominated by either KU or UNC.

Anonymous said...

Bruinblue08 - hey "ironfist" whatever for that stupid name, you're high! what the Bruins have done is one of the most difficult thing to do in all of sports. Three straight final fours, that's why it's only been done twice before. you were wise NOT to show what school you are affiliated with because i'm sure their resume doesn't stack up. Stay in the Closet! GO BRUINS!!!!!

Anonymous said...

ucla1341- UCLA's D will win this one. Westbrook will be guarding Rose. The Prince needs to step up his D and UCLA needs to rebound, no second chance points. UCLA wins by 5 and will play UNC in the title game!

Anonymous said...

CubbyMcBruin - Collison is The "glue" that holds the Bruins together... Let's see if Memphis really has answer for UCLA, and Kevin Love. Collison can drop 25 on any team in the nation if that is what UCLA needs on Saturday....
UCLA turns it up a notch when the game is on the line, which means Memphis better be up 25 if they think they will outlast this team. We have beaten Memphis the last 2 years! Shut down their best players just like we do every game.

Bruins win it all...

Anonymous said...

catcatduck - I don't remember a team that was more disrespected recently in the NCAA than Memphis. This team played a tough non conference, won their conference, lost by less than 5 points to the #2 ranked team in the country, and people still disrespect. I'm not a Memphis grad or devout fan, but I like their play and I just hope they shut everyone up for good and take care of Texas, UCLA/Xavier and whoever they'llplay in the championship. Then though, I suppose we'll hear about how they had such an easy route to the championship.

Anonymous said...

ncaahoopfan- hey 'catcatduck'(stupid name to begin with) if you played in a conference that was not division II perhaps you would get some respect. Furthermore when you have to make some free-throws in a game that is close, you will be exposed for the frauds that you are!!! 35-2!!!

Anonymous said...

jmstubbs75 -
Wait a minute. I thought Memphis was a fraud from a weak conference that hadn't played or beaten anyone. How can this be? I thought they sucked. How could they be up by 30 at the half on a 27-win Big Ten team? What's going on here? Weren't they supposed to lose in the first or second round, just like they didn't do the last two years?

Anonymous said...

I'm truly sorry Memphis fans, but your team has played NO ONE. No one from the Big Ten is worth a squat, that was proven last ight when WS especially went down to Davidson. Memphis plays a weak conference, and the only time they played any one note worthy they lost!!! Texas however stayed in the top 10 consistently despite playing in a good conference. So anyone doubting Texas ability to beat Memphis is a complete idiot. There's a reason no expert gives them credit: Memphis has done nothingg to deserve it, only beating teams full of Mediocrity. When Memphis FINALLY beats someone worth a crap maybe I'll think twice, but I just don't forsee that happening. For crying out loud Memphis Tigers couldn't even beat the Memphis Grizzlies

Anonymous said...

NCBLUE484- you talk about no respect!!! The Heels have been #1 all year long, have been the most consistent, have the best record taking into account the strength of schedule, we have the player of the year, RPI of the Acc, etc. and pundits STILL think we can't play defense. Only time will prove that this was one of the best collegiate teams of the past decade. Oh yea, to all of you haters, the media likes us for a reason. We have a clean program, great coaches, great players, and kick A%@!!! that is why they like us! Deal with it. NC Tar Heels will be National Champions!!!

Anonymous said...

fosty - What a monumental melt down by the Tigers in the National Championship game. Those are games you just can't lose. As most reports and analysis indicate, that game was lost at so many intervals during the last 2 minutes of the game. I hate to say it, but Self out coached Calipari in the final 2 minutes of the game and the Jayhawk players wanted it more. They saw an opening and took it. That is what champions do. Unfortunately, Memphis is not the champion.

Anonymous said...

Can I ask Calipari if he doesn't think free throws matter? The free throws cost them the game.

Anonymous said...

brineblank - what a great game...after the game I heard the Memphis coach also talk about the 3-pointer that was changed to a 2-pointer. He said he hated that and now he was going to lobby so that officials would not be able to use monitors (to get calls correct). Too bad he just didn't take the defeat in a classy manner. The shot was clearly a 2-pointer and I would rather see a minute taken to get a call correct. Too bad such a great season and a great hard fought game had to end with sour grapes...if he was going to gripe about anything how about choking on free throws...

Anonymous said...

i love the fact that Memphis fans are really saying they won the game when in reality the score says something else. And last time i checked Free throws are part of the game and if you cant hit them in crunch time you lose more times than not.. period. end of story this year you are runners up and nothing more. Not even having Penny Hardaway there was going to help you make pressure packed freethrows last night. It was just Kansas,s night last night now give them some respect because they gave it to you.

Anonymous said...

AS A FAN OF NIETHER TEAM, I COULD'NT ASK OR A BETTER GAME TO SIT BACK, WATCH AND ENJOY MY SIX PACK. I WAS BEGGIN FOR THE GAME TO GO INTO OVERTIME. THANKS MEMPHIS FOR MISSING 4 OUT 5 DOWN THE STRETCH, A NEVER GIVE UP ATTITUDE FROM THE JAYHAWKS. AND A INCREDIBLE SHOT FROM SUPER MARIO. CONGRATS TO EVERYONE FOR ENJOYING NOTHING SHORT OF A DRAMATIC ENDING OF THE 2008 NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP.

Anonymous said...

Calipari, is, like myself, an Italian and we fratelli don't often dime each other out, but I feel the need to do so now. I refer to the point in the postgame interview conducted by underrated hottie Sam Ryan, where she questioned Cal on the supposed three-point shot by Derrick "the Candyman" Rose. All he had to say was "I don't like them reviewing that sort of thing." That's ridiculous. Those of us fortuitous enough to have HDTV's in our homes saw quite clearly that it was a two-point shot and the reversal was accurate. Of course, as the premise of this article suggests, Memphis did numerous things wrong when the game was on the line and Kansas did everything right. Yes, poor free throw shooting let the genie out of the bottle, but they created pernicious circumstances for themselves with their cavalier play down the stretch. The true measure of a championship team is making the plays that count the most when the game is at its most crucial stages. While Memphis had a successful season and almost obtained a national title, they didn't because they were outexecuted, outplayed and Chalmersed. Hopefully, that rather awkward verb catches on. I think it has a nice ring to it. Nice job, Jayhawks. Way to defend the honor of my favorite power conference, the BIG 12!

Anonymous said...

Crazyhawkfan – Hey “smacchat guy” whomever you are, KU has not gotten any credit for winning. It's like the only reason KU won was becuase memphis screwed up. But they do not mention that KU had a huge inside the paint game and did fade when they were down by 9. give them some credit. Or that they out rebounded them 39 to 28, out shot them 53% to 42%, had a 93% to 63% free throw advantage, led most of the game, forced Memphis away from their strength and proved they were the deeper more well rounded team. It shouldn't have even come down to the great comeback and if Kansas had lost you would have to look at these numbers wonder why. Kansas almost gave them the game with a 6 minute lapse late in the game. Kansas was very fortunate to have a chance after blowing it like that, but in 45 minutes of basketball the Jayhawks were the better team for about 30 of them. Anyone can come to a message board and try to take credit away from KU, but they would be wrong and at the end of the day Kansas will have the championship they earned. Give it up, they WON the game, Memphis didn’t LOSE it, deal with it.

Anonymous said...

Very entertaining game!! I am a Badger fan and had only a passing interest in the game but I enjoyed it! I think it is a shame that Memphis couldn't finish it out, but Kansas certainly showed some poise and heart at the end to keep fighting! I think that both teams are incredibly good and both coaches made some mistakes in their coaching moves. Self should have abandoned that box and 1 after two possesions but he stuck with it and let Memphis make a large run! Kansas played great man to man D and should have stuck with it! Calapari should have called a timeout after Rose's ft attempts to make sure the entire team knew to foul!
You can't blame the kids! They played their hearts out and gave it everything they had! Sure the missed free throws hurt, but so did the coaching mistakes! Congrats KU and well played and very gracious Memphis! You showed true character and class in defeat!

Anonymous said...

xplosion777 - That was one HELL OF A GAME. My hat is tipped off to the jayhawks. The time they played their best all season was at the right time. Pulled out nothing but magic to win the title. They really really tried in this final four. draining almost everything possible. What more can you ask for? This game is arguably the best game all season plus the two seasons before. National Championship. Two great teams.
OVERTIME. IN OVERTIME. You can't say you weren't satisfied unless you are a memphis fan.

Guys....I really feel Memphis' pain though. I bet they was wanting to commit suicide or something. You guys Do realize how much that would suck? It would've str8 up broke me for years to come. Jayhawks and their magic with 2 minutes left. Good job guys Oh and btw. Nobody can talk smack to Tyler Hansborough now. I don't wanna hear excuses or whatever bullcrap you have. Because He's the Naismith trophy winner. You will never tell me otherwise =]

Anonymous said...

They did give it away. Biggest choke job I have ever seen in the NCAA finals. They had it won and manged to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Anonymous said...

bleurose - Just to echo at least a FEW other fans, this was a GREAT Final Four. When four incredible teams (and all of them truly were incredible teams) face off in a single-elimination tournament, there is really NO way to say which of those teams is TRULY the best (that's why the pros play 3-out-of-5 and 4-out-of-7 tournaments). Does anyone sitting here in "judgment" on Memphis (or UNC or UCLA) truly KNOW that any of the other teams would have fallen in a long series? I doubt it. From watching all three of the Final Four games, including even the UNC game where both teams had incredible runs, and the UCLA game where UCLA obviously came out flat and didn't play like they had all season), I think it would be truly a hazard to predict how ANY of these match-ups would have turned out in a 3-out-of-5 or longer tourney (or for that matter even a 2-out-of-3). All four of these teams showed greatness throughout the tournament and this delivered a truly exciting Final Four, which is all you can ask. Kansas won THIS tournament and championship and they certainly deserve the accolades, but please don't call Memphis "losers" or "chokers". If the Memphis/Kansas game was a series, I have no doubts that this would have been close all the way for both teams. Ditto UCLA and ditto UNC. They really all are "winners" from where I sit (as a basketball fan and NOT as a fan of any of those teams - Go Stanford! :-)

Anonymous said...

Bruce Pearl to John Calipari: "John, when you're up by three with ten seconds left, foul them before they can take a shot. It's really hard to get three points on two free throws. Trust me, it works. Remember?"

Anonymous said...

tigerbrad83- I mean I am not saying anything about coach cal he is a great coach very smart, but why dont you have your team staying after practice and shooting 100 extra free throws and try to get them shooting better or bring in an assistance just for free throws because all season it was clear that free throws were memphis's only weakness

Anonymous said...

RamesesUNC - That was an absolutely fantastic game by the tournament's two best teams and that's the way it is supposed to be. I, like many others, was not willing at first to give Memphis its due credit early on, but I was very impressed by them in this tournament. Kansas I felt before the season even started had a great chance to win the championship this year. As a UNC fan, I truly believed all season that we stood a good chance this year but then I also truly believe now that both of the teams I saw play last night would have done the same thing to my team. Let's not forget that Memphis was two very close losses from being 40-0. You simply cannot give an excellent team the chances they gave Kansaslast night, and to a degree that comes down to coaching. Memphis had the timeouts and Cal should have taken one to ensure that they got a foul on Kansas to put them in a position of needing more things to happen than merely making a single three pointer. Lost in all of this is how foolish Dorsey's foul was as well. All in all though, congratulations to all of the Kansas fans on here and keep your heads up to all of the Memphis fans. It is my opinion that Bill Self would be foolish to leave KU for OSU, no matter how much money the oil tycoon wants to throw at him. KU is an elite program and they need to pay him like an elite coach!

Anonymous said...

To foul or not to foul, hell, call a blasted time out Calipari!!! After it was certain to be a 3 point game, you need to talk to the troops and ensure all are on the same page for the final defensive play. This did not happen, and that lands squarely at the feet of John Calipari. There were plenty of instances throughout the second half, including missed free throws all the way through the second half, not just in the last couple of minutes, where this game could have been put away. CDR needs to be making those throws, and he is very lucky he did not get a T for spiking the ball either...the refs made a brilliant non-call. Once in OT, all the momentum belonged to the Jayhawks.

Congratulations to Bill Self and his Kansas Jayhawks team, they never quit and took advantage of the opportunities. I'd like to think they won this game more than Memphis lost it...but it is tough to swallow that way. The most deserving team did win, and that is what matters!!!

Anonymous said...

He had no control of the team at the end of the game. Why no time-out after Rose's made free throw? All he had to do was tell them to pressure the ball to half-court and foul. Game Over. Instead Kansas makes the three and their momentum carries them to the victory in overtime. I keep hearing people say that Chalmers shot was a prayer and was lucky to go in. This is the NCAA Championship, right? These guys are playing in this game for a reason, they make the clutch shots. This is not a matter of Chalmers making a lucky shot. Great players will make that shot every time. How could you expect him to miss? It was Calipari mismanaging the last 10 seconds of regulation that cost them the game.

Anonymous said...

AJ wood- This is getting ridculous. The NBA has made a mockery out of college basketball with this whole one year out of high school to be eligible for the draft. I'm sick of seeing talent jump for the pros after one year in college. There are a few that are ready for the pro game, but guys named Michael Beasley are few and far between. The NBA needs to extend the eligibility rule at two at least two years. Similar to what the NFL has in place. Hearing guys like Eric Gordon of IU say he wants to compete at the highest level and that it has nothing to do with money is sad. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH MONEY! Stay in school. Get an education, and at the same time improve your future draft stock. Its just sad to see these guys leave the college game, which in my opinion is much more entertaining than the NBA.

Anonymous said...

I think Kevin Love leaving is a definite no-brainer. He will be a mid first rounder. I think that Russell Westbrook, as a sophomore, is also a mid first rounder and will definitely get in the first round. However, I think out of the the 3, Darren Collison might be the least ready to go. I just think that Derrick Rose exposed a whole lot of flaws in his game and in the NBA all of the point guards are as strong as Rose. I think that Collison will dip to the late first round and I wouldnt be suprised to see him fall into the second.